CraXoR banned

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Here are the mp from the mod cinnabun, and the answers from CraXoR...

End of the story :
CraXoR blackmailed and banned for 7 days (or more ?...) from the forums, including own EC forum, profile page deleted, 2 karma points docked...
To be continued...

 

mp exchanges with cinnabun

announce of the ban

From cinnabun to CraXoR, sent on 2008-03-02 01:50:16

Forum ban

I have banned you from the forums for your constant posting of nonsense about snitches. It's enough. I have not determined how long of a ban it is yet. When your ban is lifted, I want the post in your forum about Howrse police removed. I will not debate this with you. If you do not agree to remove when your ban is lifted, I will reinstate the ban until you agree to. There will be no retaliation posts made about why the post was removed.

cinnabun


second message

From cinnabun to CraXoR, sent on 2008-03-02 02:10:45

Not listening?

Get my message off of your page or the ban will be longer. Your choice CraXoR? You were given a reason and you know it. Right now the ban is 3 days but I will make it 5. What's it gonna be?

cinnabun

From CraXoR to cinnabun, sent on 2008-03-02 02:16:07

Re: Not listening?

I call that power abuse...
You are threatening me again ?
Am I not allowed to put your message on my page ? I'm only showing the truth, a mod making a deal to make me erase a post on my forum...
but I can't even go on my forum ! you banned me from all the forums !


third message

From cinnabun to CraXoR, sent on 2008-03-02 02:17:33

Re: Not listening?

The ban is now 5 days. Wanna go for 7?


From CraXoR to cinnabun, sent on 2008-03-02 02:43:06

Re: Not listening?

threatening is not a good way to obtain something...
it does exactly the contrary that the thing you want to obtain...
sorry to deceive you
but you didn't give me any reason to delete the topic about howrse police on my forum, and I don't think it's against the rules
I'm very sad to see how you use your mod power against me
and more sad when I suppose that you might do the same with the kids on this game...


first karma docked

From Howrse to CraXoR, sent on 2008-03-02 02:38:00

Change karma

Hello CraXoR, You have lost -1 karma point(s)!

Cause: Refusing to remove mod's messages from profile pagen
See you again soon,The Howrse team



explanation ?....

From cinnabun to CraXoR, sent on 2008-03-02 02:43:03

Please remove it

Please remove it now CraXoR or I will have to delete your profile page and dock another karma. I really do not want this to go any further. It is up to you now. Thanks.

cinnabun


From CraXoR to cinnabun, sent on 2008-03-02 02:45:02

Re: Please remove it

go for it, I see that you are out of arguments...

I'm an adult, and I don't obey like a kid when I'm threatened



explanation ?....

From cinnabun to CraXoR, sent on 2008-03-02 02:47:47

Re: Not listening?

Let's see if we can discuss this like adults here. Your post is telling players that is it wrong to "snitch". Reporting horrible pages such as horses hanging upside down with a metal bar through their head is not appropriate for children to see. And as much as you like kids, I figure that you would understand this. That is why I want the post gone. I need players help in getting rid of these horribel images amongst other inappropriate things. If you cannot understand this, then I don't know what to tell you.

I do not want to use my "mod powers" as you call it, against you or any other player on here. But you cannot just go around posting whatever you want regardless of whether you think it is okay to do so or not. I don't allow other playes to get away with it.

I would love to get along with you CraXoR, but there are rules to be followed here and you have to follow them like everyone else.

Take care...cinnabun


From CraXoR to cinnabun, sent on 2008-03-02 02:56:03

Re: Not listening?

where did you see that ?
did you read my post ?
I don't think so...

I'm just saying that I'm against incitement to denounciation,

I'm not talking about horrible pages such as horses hanging upside down with a metal bar through their head
I think you're just over reacting because you're upset
but threatening me is not the way

My topic is not against the rules of this game, I'm sorry

Why am I against incitement to denounciation ?
because kids report already the other players for a lot of nonsense things, I know it as I'm being reported a lot when I don't answer to their pm or when I refuse to tell them something or anything they can find to get power on me...

asking kids on a public forum when you have autority is not acceptable and I find it dangerous
howrse is already being run in a totalitary way, no need to add more !



explanation ?.... next

From cinnabun to CraXoR, sent on 2008-03-02 02:59:33

Re: Not listening?

First of all, I am not threatening you. I don't threaten. I tell it the way it is. Second, I did read your post and I read what everyone else posted. That is the problem. These kids look up to you in a very big way. They hang onto every word you tell them and then they read more into it. If you say "don't snitch" well then they are not going to.

What was the point of even putting it there? You only put there after I asked you to remove my link. Was this done out of spite for me? What have I done to you? Nothing! So, enough said. Are you going to remove my messages from your page or not? Are you going to remove the post or not? Two simple questions. A yes or no will do fine. Thanks....cinnabun


From CraXoR to cinnabun, sent on 2008-03-02 03:10:17

Re: Not listening?

You are not threatening me ?
what do you call what you are doing then ?
raising my forum ban if I don't delete a post (that is not against the rules of the game)

docking my karma if I don't delete your message... but what's the problem with your message ? are you ashame of what your wrote ?
or perhaps if a thousand players see that you threaten me what would they think about their beloved mod ?...

I put my topic before you asked me to delete the link to your forum, and there was the link to your forum in my first topic

Kids are not stupid, they understand when you explain things

And I will say "stop snitchin' on howrse" as long as people will report for inapropriate reasons
And if they stop snitchin, I will be really pleased

My answer is :
I don't remove a post when it's not against the rules, just because you don't like it, and when I'm threatened to do so

I hope you don't act like that with other people...

sincerly disappointed, when I will not have anymore karma, I will quit the game

for the forum, the only problem is that I can't access to my own forum... but life is life.... I will get over that



threatening to be continued...

From cinnabun to CraXoR, sent on 2008-03-02 03:14:44

Re: Not listening?

So be it. The ban will remain in effect until you agree to remove the post. And you profile page will be deleted if my messages are not removed and another karma taken. Sorry, it has to be this way but you leave me no choice in the matter.

cinnbun


From CraXoR to cinnabun, sent on 2008-03-02 03:20:08

Re: Not listening?

it's not true...

You give me no choice...
It shows that you have just one thing left, removing my karma...

And you have not given me any good and reasonable reason for that :
why should I remove your message from my profile ?
why should I remove my topic from my forum ?

what rule am I not following ?...
as a mod, you are over passing your rights, taking karma away without real reason, and making a personal attack against a player instead...

that's baaaaaad !



From cinnabun to CraXoR, sent on 2008-03-02 03:21:22

Re: Not listening?

You can always report me to the administrators. I am done with this now. I have said all I am going to say. Goodbye CraXoR.


2nd karma docked and page deleted ...


From Howrse to CraXoR, sent on 2008-03-02 04:15:01

Change karma

Hello CraXoR, You have lost -1 karma point(s)!

Cause: Refusing to delte mod's messages off of progile page despite previous warnings and karma takenn
See you again soon,The Howrse team